Jeanne Heuving on Nate Mackey Destination Out

Jeanne Heuving is the editor of a fascinating new book of scholarship on one of the most important poets of our time, Nate Mackey. The book is entitled Nathaniel Mackey, Destination Out: Essays on His Work. Jeanne Heuving is co-editor of Inciting Poetics: Thinking and Writing Poetry. She’s a professor at the University of Washington–Bothell, a graduate faculty member in the English Department at University of Washington–Seattle, a Seattle native who still calls the Emerald City home.

Nathaniel Mackey is a poet, novelist, editor, and critic. His work (according to the Foundation for Contemporary Arts) “often explores how language can be infused and informed by music, especially jazz. His writing tries to cultivate the music of language, in sounds, meaning, and implication.” His latest publication is a box set called Double Trio, published by New Directions.

I caught up with Jeanne Heuving on Wednesday, June 30, 2021 and discussed with her the book and Mackey’s work:

More on Mackey:


Nathaniel Mackey’s Epic Poem



About Splabman

Paul Nelson is founder of SPLAB (Seattle Poetics LAB) in Seattle, the Cascadia Poetry Festival and the August POetry POstcard Fest (PoPo). He has published a collection of essays, Organic Poetry & a serial poem re-enacting the history of Auburn, WA, A Time Before Slaughter (shortlisted for a 2010 Genius Award by The Stranger) and American Sentences, a book of 17 syllable poems drawn from the first fourteen of his 20 years of daily practice. The tenth anniversary edition of that book includes Pig War: & Other Songs of Cascadia. He’s interviewed Allen Ginsberg, Michael McClure, Wanda Coleman, Anne Waldman, Sam Hamill, Robin Blaser, Nate Mackey, Eileen Myles, George Bowering, Diane di Prima, Brenda Hillman, George Stanley, Joanne Kyger & many Cascadia poets (see: has presented his poetry and poetics in London, Brussels, Bothell, Cumberland, BC, Qinghai and Beijing, China, Lake Forest, Illinois, Ukiah, CA, and other places & writes an American Sentence every day.
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